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And in related news: Flights of Torture
This is what the government controlled media terms
‘mistreatment.’? Can you imagine if this is what we are seeing, then what must be happening that has not been seen?
The average American say they cannot understand how Nazi Germany happened, yet this type of human rights abuse is not seen in the same light because it is happening to Muslims and not Christians or Jews.
The other night I was listening to a Shortwave radio broadcast called ‘Unravelling the New World Order” on WWCR, Nashville. It had rabid religious right father and son team that said how can you tell a good Muslim from a terrorist? - “They all look the same.”
Does this type of rhetoric sound familiar? How long will it be before these types start condoning what is happening in places like Guantanimo Bay and Abu Grahib. It will not be long until it speads to the population at large.
Monikers such as “You are with us or against us”, “America, love it or leave it” is an insidious poison that will eventually destroy this once great country.
Any society that is willing to tolerate such abuses is doomed for certain.
M.T.
Texas
A few months back on Vancouver Indymedia I read an article that shocked me. The Pentagon hired Israeli “specialists” to help torture the prisoners in Abu Grahib prison. I checked sources and they were accurate. Please believe me when I say that the Jews are not responsible for this torture. What I am saying is is that the State of Israel helped to train US soldiers in regards to torturing the prisoners in Abu Grahib.
Israel is well known for torturing Muslims in the occupied territories. They have been doing so for years.
In Islam, modesty is very very important. The Israelis and the US army (those who are put in charge of Abu Grahib prison) are fully aware of this. I realize that no matter what culture or ethnic group you are from torture is torture, humiliation is humiliation. What I am saying is that to take a Muslim man or woman and strip them of thier clothing is especially undignified to them. To have a woman do this to a Muslim man is unforgivable(female soldiers in Abu Grahib were especially chosen to perform these acts and this is no coincidence).
The Israelis are well oriented with torturing Muslims and it is for this reason that they were hired to work in Abu Grahib. I wished I had saved this article. I checked my sources and even contacted the person who wrote the article. The facts are real.
Mona Rishmawi, a human rights lawyer in the West Bank reported that many Palestinians are made to confess using torture. A Druze Israeli army veteran came out with the story, he was sentenced, and laterproven innocent . There was a huge scandal in Israel regarding this matter.
They have a camp in Lebanon, in the so called “security zone” , I believe it is still run by a mercenary army The south lebanon army, which is backed up by Israeli troops. The torture chambers are extremely brutal. The Red Cross was refused from entering it. Some human rights groups, some Israeli sources as well as journalist have attested to the brutal torture. The Hebrew press had articles on this camp. Ansar is the main camp.
The state of Israel pushed for this war on Iraq. There are dozens of articles on this. Look them up. They are partially responsible for the illegal anglo-american invasion of Iraq.
Israel never liked Saddam. There are many reasons. One of them is the fact that most of the population of Iraq are Muslims, this is obvious. Secondly, they were or pretend to be afraid that Saddam would launch missiles on them. Anyone with a clear mind will realize that Saddam was indeed brutal to his people (with the help of the United States and England of course. Lets not forget that England was the first country to produce chemical warfare and practically give it to Saddam), however he was not crazy enough to launch a missile attack against Israel. To do so, would be suicide for him and his people. America would make sure of that.
Israel just needs excuses. Saddam was an Arab Nationalist. He also wanted to nationalize Iraqi oil and switch to the Euro Dollar. This scared the US government and it would be a cold day in hell before Saddam (once the US’s man) would dare pull a stunt like that.
discussionThe gist of what I am saying is that the torture in Iraq is done for various reasons. One of them is to enrage Muslims all over the world( which I truly believe the US wants). Why? because the United States of America needs enemies in order to pull their agenda through. They need acts of terrorism just like Israel does in order to justify their actions. Then they can say “See, we told you so and so was bad, know we have to retaliate).
If 9/11 did not happen, getting public opinion to invade Afghanistan and Iraq would be fait accompli. Empires need wars every so often to unsettle its poplulation, to curb civil rights, round up support of its citizens and to expand.
I have read many accounts of how US soldiers will enter a Iraqi home without consent. For Muslims (as again with any other group of people) this is just too barbaric. The Pentagon realizes that entering a Muslim house without permission is to literally deface a Muslim woman. Most Muslim women do not wear their headscarves in the home. To walk into their private space is likened to being raped. Their home is their very private sanctuary. And I truly believe this is being done on purpose. The Penagon knows exactly what it is doing.
Invading Fallujah during the holy month of Ramadan is also done on purpose. It is to enrage Muslims everywhere. And the United States Goverment has reasons for this.
The Unites States has encouraged torture for years now, If you’re interested, look up the many atrocities(torture techniques) the CIA has committed throughout history. You will be appalled.
This may sound really weird to you but I’m going to say it anyway. The United States of America wants acts of terrorism and they are willfully going about to ensure that it happens.
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Watcha doin’?
Shooting terrorists.
Who’re the terrorists?
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See this man? Lying defenseless on the ground, hurt?
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Watcha doin’?
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Shots.
They think of themselves
(if they can)
as the high-tech Bravehearts
of their Great Good Land.
He wants to be admired
as the Chosen President
of God’s Own Country.
And he is-
by millions of immaculate, hypocrite Christians
pursuing their holiest moral values.
But the rest of us just
feels only disgust.
The old American Dream
of enslaving the world
is the worst
most terrible
most dangerous
nightmare.
Torture for peace
murder for freedom
maim for democracy.
Fuck Iraq-
but not before marriage!
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God, Bless America!
With best regards from Old Europe,
Michael
My wish;
To stay alive
long enough
to see the
2%
get their
Oh so
richly deserved
Karmic debt
paid
in
full
and
in
kind
State of the Union
Decades ago
the just and noble cause
of killing the Vietnamese
and ruling their country
did not prevail
because the massacres
were televised
This cannot happen again
because the reporters
in bed with the military
the whores of the war
will not show too much
of liberated
and smashed
Falludjah
Through the smog
of the corporate media
there will come
no beam of truth
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the voters of Alabama
proudly remember
their racist past
when from the chimneys
of the small
Christian
God-fearing
southern towns
greeted the heads
of the beheaded
black slave insurgents
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3 Questions to the American People
Is it possible
that in your political system
a president
can give
secret
Executive Orders
permitting
justifying
or even ordering
crime?
Is it possible
that at the core
of your system of government
there is now
a democratically elected
beloved dictator
Man of the Year
unaccountable
above the law?
Is it conceivable
that this is the Country
Chosen to redeem the world
to export
its kind of
democracy
with brute force?
Happy Christmas! Have a quiet time contemplating over your country. Stop believing! Start thinking! And my wish for the next year: Wake up, American dreamers!
With best regards
Michael, from the rest of the world
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